On today's Up with Chris Hayes the several panels discussed the President's SOTU proposals for minimum wage, gun control and pre-school education. I will focus on the minimum wage as an example of Progressive debate on statist proposals. There was one token Righty, and they all attacked her every time she tried to answer a question. One guest I'd never heard of was condescending, and he looked at Chris each time he, with disdain on his face, condescendingly corrected the lone Righty, as if he assumed Hayes had his back. I kept waiting for Hayes to search for the truth rather than sit by and even join in on the condescension and disdain. This is one aspect of Progressive argumentation -- an air of superiority with no real evidence to suggest superiority. It's funny, or at least the guy this morning was funny -- not exactly an intellectual heavyweight. I can't remember his name, but he has some show about too beautiful to live, or something like that.
Secondly, when the subject of minimum wage was discussed, the lone Righty brought up that inflation results from government enforced wage hikes. The panel shot this down immediately, and some economist type that Hayes found stated that not enough people are making minimum wage for the rise in wages at the bottom to have an effect on inflation -- he had no evidence of this of course. But, then later, when Hayes was asking about the effect of workers not wanting to be at the bottom of the scale, so what happens when the bottom is brought up to the next rung, a Small Business Person said that when minimum wage is hiked all wages begin to go up. Well, if this is the case, then it negates the argument from the economist type dude who said not enough people make minimum to have an effect on inflation. I could bring up several such inconsistencies where the arguments failed, but the point is that they were silent about the contradictions. This is the problem with Progressives -- there is emotion, but the facts are obscured, and emotion wins out over facts.
Answer to Pre-School advocates.
From economists not picked by Chris Hayes.
Minimum wage was increased in 2007. Current unemployment among black teenagers has hovered around 40% for several years. For teenagers in general, the unemployment rate has been around 25%. Hispanics in general, all ages, have suffered a 10% unemployment rate.
Of course there are other reasons for unemployment, but Progressives would grab hold of data like this and make a direct correlation to get something passed.