I hardly ever watch Fox's The Five all the wat through, because I find it aggravating when five people are talking and none have time to really put their thoughts together, so dumb things are often said in the heat of conversation. I watched it today, though, and was rewarded by Greg Gutfeld. Gutfeld has called himself a libertarian before, but his hawkish stance toward foreign policy, and his acceptance of the surveillance State make me question his libertarianism -- however, today, in an exchange with Bob Beckel, the Progressive hack on the show, Gutfeld stood up, figuratively, when Beckel thought he had Gutfeld beaten down with a false Progressive premise.
The topic being argued by Gutfeld and Beckel was Obamacare and how it represents the failure of Big Government. Beckel sarcastically asked if Gutfeld wanted to end Medicare, SS, Medicaid, etc., and, instead of stuttering and looking for an exit, Gutfeld said yes, we should allow the private sector to experiment and come up with solutions to retirement, healthcare and poverty. This is how opposition to Progressivism should be handled -- with honesty and explanations of principles that have succeeded wildly in the past regarding economic liberty, innovation and escape from poverty.